my idea of a quick start guide


Robert P. J. Day
 

since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday

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http://crashcourse.ca

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Rifenbark, Scott M <scott.m.rifenbark@...>
 

Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
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Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday

--

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Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
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David Stewart
 

I like it.

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bounces@...] On Behalf Of Rifenbark, Scott M
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:28 PM
To: Robert P. J. Day; Yocto discussion list
Subject: Re: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide

Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page
would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user
to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a
good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki
page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-
qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-
bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Yocto discussion list
Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday

--

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Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
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Robert P. J. Day
 

On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's
wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of
diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that
let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a
section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see
it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.

Scott
i think it was gary thomas who pointed out an even simpler way to
set up premirrors than what you copied from my QS page:

SOURCE_MIRROR_URL ?= "file:///home/rpjday/dl/"
INHERIT += "own-mirrors"
BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS = "1"
# BB_NO_NETWORK = "1"


rday

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Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
========================================================================


Darren Hart <dvhart@...>
 

On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.
It's not a bad section to have, but it doesn't feel integrated into the
quickstart, especially the bit about building for Beagleboard xM. Users
looking for a truly quick start will still have to troll through pages
of introductory overview and concepts before they get to this. I still
argue that a new user should be able to build and boot qemux86 sato
using the QS guide without having to scroll down.

--
Darren


Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Yocto discussion list
Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel


Darren Hart <dvhart@...>
 

Also, the Note and Tip blocks formatting has improved, but I still find
it distracting that the title font for these is still larger than any of
the heading fonts in the rest of the document.

--
Darren

On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Yocto discussion list
Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel


Robert P. J. Day
 

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012, Darren Hart wrote:

On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.
It's not a bad section to have, but it doesn't feel integrated into
the quickstart, especially the bit about building for Beagleboard
xM. Users looking for a truly quick start will still have to troll
through pages of introductory overview and concepts before they get
to this. I still argue that a new user should be able to build and
boot qemux86 sato using the QS guide without having to scroll down.
actually, i agree -- i had no input into where that content was
placed in the QS guide. :-)

in fact, i'm currently in the process of writing some OE-core
tutorial material and part of that involves showing how to build a
QEMU core-image-sato image using nothing but a checkout of oe-core.
so that's not really yocto material, it's much more basic OE-core
material.

rday

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========================================================================
Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
========================================================================


Rifenbark, Scott M <scott.m.rifenbark@...>
 

I could replace the Beagleboard xM machine with qemux86. The introductory bit up front provides minimal inconvenience to the reader to quickly hop down to the section via the link.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Hart [mailto:dvhart@...]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:07 AM
To: Rifenbark, Scott M
Cc: Robert P. J. Day; Yocto discussion list
Subject: Re: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide



On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.
It's not a bad section to have, but it doesn't feel integrated into the
quickstart, especially the bit about building for Beagleboard xM. Users
looking for a truly quick start will still have to troll through pages
of introductory overview and concepts before they get to this. I still
argue that a new user should be able to build and boot qemux86 sato
using the QS guide without having to scroll down.

--
Darren


Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Yocto discussion list
Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel


Rifenbark, Scott M <scott.m.rifenbark@...>
 

I find that irritating as well and will try and look into changing that.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Hart [mailto:dvhart@...]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Rifenbark, Scott M
Cc: Robert P. J. Day; Yocto discussion list
Subject: Re: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide

Also, the Note and Tip blocks formatting has improved, but I still find
it distracting that the title font for these is still larger than any of
the heading fonts in the rest of the document.

--
Darren

On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user

Feedback and comments welcome.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: yocto-bounces@... [mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Yocto discussion list
Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel


Darren Hart <dvhart@...>
 

On 03/19/2012 10:17 AM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
I could replace the Beagleboard xM machine with qemux86. The
introductory bit up front provides minimal inconvenience to the
"Minimal inconvenience" is a subjective assessment of course. I find it
very annoying to slog through that much material when all I want are the
3 shell commands to get it going, from which I can typically infer a lot.

Other have reported similar views.

reader to quickly hop down to the section via the link.
I missed this on my first scan, despite checking for it. My fault? Sure.
But I'm not likely to be the only one.

--
Darren


Scott

-----Original Message----- From: Darren Hart
[mailto:dvhart@...] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:07
AM To: Rifenbark, Scott M Cc: Robert P. J. Day; Yocto discussion
list Subject: Re: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide



On 03/16/2012 04:27 PM, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:
Several people have indicated a quick start section like Robert's
wiki page would be good in the YP QS. I agree that the idea of
diverting the super user to a shortened, more concise section that
let's you kick the tires of Yocto is a good idea. I have created a
section based on Robert's example from his wiki page. You can see
it at this link:

http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#super-user


Feedback and comments welcome.

It's not a bad section to have, but it doesn't feel integrated into
the quickstart, especially the bit about building for Beagleboard xM.
Users looking for a truly quick start will still have to troll
through pages of introductory overview and concepts before they get
to this. I still argue that a new user should be able to build and
boot qemux86 sato using the QS guide without having to scroll down.

-- Darren


Scott

-----Original Message----- From: yocto-bounces@...
[mailto:yocto-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert P. J.
Day Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:49 AM To: Yocto
discussion list Subject: [yocto] my idea of a quick start guide


since it's easier to just write something than suggest numerous
fixes, i took less than an hour and wrote this:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Yocto_Project_Quick_Start

it's the sort of thing that would have been perfect for me when i
first jumped into yocto.

i'm going to add a couple more short sections but, technically, it
contains everything i would have needed to know to build my first
image.

thoughts?

rday
--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel