Re: [OE-core] [Openembedded-architecture] Y2038 proposal

?ukasz Majewski

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 2022-11-30 at 09:07 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 16:45, Stephen Jolley
<> wrote:
We’d welcome a proposal/series on how to move forward with the
Y2038 work for 32 bit platforms.
I have the following proposal:

1. A branch is made where:
a. "-D_TIME_BITS=64 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" is enabled globally.
b. qemu is always started with "-rtc base=2040-01-01", simulating
Y2038 actually occurring.
c. an additional runtime test verifies that both RTC clock and
system clock report 2040.

2. This branch is run through a-full on the autobuilder. Any
uncovered issues are filed as bugs.

3. Once *all* of the bugs are addressed, repeat point 2.

4. Once there are no more open bugs, 1a is merged into master.

Any fatal flaws in the plan?
Others have made some good comments. My thoughts:

* We need to add some runtime tests to oeqa for this (in addition to
the ptests)

* We need to have a 32 bit ptest run on the autobuilder (qemux86
should work, not sure we can make qemuarm fast). Whether this is
manually triggered, not sure. We could have a smaller set of ptests
to run for it?
Y2038 ptests maybe?

Here is the list of integrated tests to ptests:

* Could we optionally disable some of the glibc 32 bit function calls
to ensure they're not being used?
Could you be more specific here? Would you like to disable some

We don't really want to diverge from
upstream glibc much though.
Could you be more specific here? The glibc now supports the whole set
of syscalls as of 2.34 version?

To enable them one needs to pass -D_TIME_BITS=64 flag when compiling

This is now the official glibc ABI.

* We need to work out how to communicate this change happened and have
people "buy in" to it.

The reason for that is that if someone has
existing binaries, there could be problems using them after the
The binary shall work without issues on glibc 2.34+ and 5.10+ kernel
without issues.

The only problem happens when new binaries with 64 bit time support are
run on glibc or kernel not supporting 64 bit time.

We therefore need to be sure they are aware of it.



Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski


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