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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Enclosed is the revised document I presented last Friday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lieu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> yocto-ab-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-ab-bounces@yoctoproject.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Osier-mixon, Jeffrey<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> yocto-ab@yoctoproject.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [yocto-ab] Minutes: Yocto Project Advisory Board, 09-December-2011<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Just a quick addition in case it was not clear in the notes: Gold members will receive invoices for the agreed Gold membership fee ($45k). We will discuss this more in next week's meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Osier-mixon, Jeffrey <<a href="mailto:jeffrey.osier-mixon@intel.com">jeffrey.osier-mixon@intel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Minutes: Yocto Project Advisory Board, 09-December-2011<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lieu Ta, Wind River<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul Anderson, Wind River<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nithya Ruff, Wind River<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sean Hudson, Mentor Graphics<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Cherry, Mentor Graphics<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Philip Balister, OpenEmbedded eV<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tracey Erway, Intel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave Stewart, Intel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark Orvek, MontaVista Software<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bill Mills, Texas Instruments<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Richard Purdie, Chief Architect (Linux Foundation)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Steve Sakoman, Sakoman Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Osier-Mixon, community manager (Intel)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Working Agenda:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Budget Update 2011<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[slides]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">==> Jefro can send slides to anyone not present<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Budget Plan 2012<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[slides]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> LT: want to close on decisions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> discussion about sysadmin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> SS does own IT, votes heck yeah<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> PB: OE operates with volunteer sysadmin team, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> difficult to get things done<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> good sysadmin important for successful project<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: no prob with line item as long as person working fulltime<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> on yocto only, and capable of handling a lot of misc things<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> that come up - expectation is position to absorb a lot of <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> things, not nickel/dime on budget<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> DS: adamant with LF about not sharing sysadmin's time<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> can think of a way to perform accountability tracking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: don't need to micromanage it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> DS: create mechanism for billing back <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> RP: ensure priorities<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JC: consider addressing LF to supply or fund?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JO: LF provides us resources as a "lab", expected to fund our own<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> resources, including sysadmin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JC: contact mike woster on topic?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">==> Jefro to set up meeting next week<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">==> LIEU to update advocacy table & resend slides<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- tiered membership proposal<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> [slides]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> membership fee applicable to new and existing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> DS: want to think about lowest rung, maybe waive for very <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> small organizations like Sakoman, OE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> continue the ability to waive at AB discretion<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: enough to cover budget with existing members? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> LT: not yet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JO: 2 new members joining in January, one more at the gate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> PA: limit number of people on AB? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">granted, AB is just advisory, keep handle on size<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> PB: wireless innovation forum similar structure, exec committee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> (note: PB sent a link to wireless innovation <a href="http://www.wirelessinnovation.org/About_the_Forum" target="_blank">
http://www.wirelessinnovation.org/About_the_Forum</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: too many levels? in LF, silver members vote among themselves<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> and appoint one to that one seat on board<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> SH: some considerations - smaller entities in larger company<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> for OS contribs still want participation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">question: purpose of this board?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> technical direction - what we need? (eg shoeleather)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> handle business/admin side?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> DS: project driven by meritocracy, our role advisory<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> SH: concern that AB focus seems to be changing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">definitely think advisory board there to help influence <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">general technical direction of project<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">like to see separation of marketing/business from advisory board<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">understand problem: need to bring money in<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> continue to work technical direction & work with architect<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">e.g., Yocto Project mark for marketing purposes - not AB related<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> RP: this is discussed occasionally<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> proposed a discussion to dead response on AB list<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">needs to be addressed, people want to get involved with YP<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: way too big a change to vote on today<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> need budget resolution<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">proposal: take budget as stands now, divide by # paying members<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">if get other "gold members" can choose to spend more or decrease<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">cost of 5 existing members or do both<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">add silver tier to get more people involved, treat independent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">action item for first meeting next year<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">need more circulation on these proposals<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> PA: good plan, can amend later<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JO: suggest enacting silver now, as there are existing orgs that<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> can't afford a gold membership and may have to drop otherwise<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: suggest silver members have seperate structure, only get one vote<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JO: also, AB retains ability to waive membership fees<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: initially 45k, if one drops to 10k need to crunch budget<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">VOTE: gold 45, silver 10, board discretionary to waive fee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*** PASSED resolution for gold & silver membership levels<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> with agreement to continue discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> BM: ok to pay quarterly?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> LT: okay with everyone? yes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*** PASSED quarterly payments<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> JC: hold off on approval of sysadmin until talk to MW<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> approve sysadmin for q1?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*** PASSED approved sysadmin cost for Q1<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> with agreement to continue discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RP: may need to schedule more rapid succession meetings<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">still to decide: tiered membership<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">schedule as needed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">==> JEFRO TO SCHED NEXT WEEK 1.5hr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Next meeting: Weds 14-Dec-2011, 2:00pm PST/4:00pm CST<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Advocacy & Conference Schedule 2012<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - Yocto Project Summit at ELC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Shoeleather Status<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Community Status<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - cavium update<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - Website overhaul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - User Experience survey & UX design<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Advisory Board Status<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - New member organizations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> - Existing memberships<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="hoenzb"><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></span><span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">Jeff Osier-Mixon <a href="http://jefro.net/blog" target="_blank">http://jefro.net/blog</a></span></span><span class="hoenzb"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel <a href="http://yoctoproject.org/" target="_blank">http://yoctoproject.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Jeff Osier-Mixon <a href="http://jefro.net/blog" target="_blank">http://jefro.net/blog</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yocto Project Community Manager @Intel <a href="http://yoctoproject.org/" target="_blank">http://yoctoproject.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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